DeepSeek pause fundraise after comments on compute gap to US leaked (transcript) [pdf]
by oliculipolicula on 7/25/2026, 11:32:50 PM
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by: credit_guy
I think the way to parse the current title "DeepSeek pause fundraise after comments on compute gap to US leaked (transcript) [pdf]" is that there was a leak that DeepSeek will pause fundraising because they perceive there is a compute gap with the US.<p>I am also guessing that the majority of the people who read this title will think that DeepSeek is pausing this fundraising because some comments they made about the compute gap were leaked. That is not the case.
7/26/2026, 12:19:08 AM
by: PeterHolzwarth
Article grabbed at random that provides some more context (tho could use more):<p><a href="https://www.cyberkendra.com/2026/07/deepseek-pauses-fundraising-amid.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.cyberkendra.com/2026/07/deepseek-pauses-fundrais...</a><p><i>"The Hangzhou AI lab has told prospective investors in its second fundraising round that it is suspending the deal, people familiar with the matter told Bloomberg on Saturday, days after remarks attributed to founder Liang Wenfeng about US-China AI competition circulated widely online." </i><p>And:<p><i>"Tencent's technology outlet published a 118-item version covering AGI strategy, chip supply, pricing, and retention. In it, Liang reportedly framed China's disadvantage as an arithmetic problem rather than a talent one: "The biggest gap between us and the US is in resources.""</i><p><i>"The specifics were unusually candid. Liang is said to have told investors he needed 200,000 Huawei 950 chips to train a frontier model but received 16,000, adding that "Huawei's problem is still insufficient capacity" and expecting the crunch to last at least three years. He also floated narrowing the gap with US labs to three to six months using a fraction of their computing."</i>
7/26/2026, 12:17:33 AM
by: culi
> Objectively speaking, if I can spend two billion this year, it would indicate that our procurement department has achieved outstanding performance. The main gap between us and the United States lies in resources, while the disparity in personnel is minimal—there is virtually no difference, as we are essentially the same team of people, possibly from China.<p>> With the largest models available today, we simply cannot afford to train them<p>It seems they're largely talking about literally purchasing NVIDIA H200 chips. Important context is that Trump first started the trade war with China largely focusing on banning anything that could improve the Chinese domestic semiconductor industry. It was a blatant attempt to prevent China from progressing up the value chain to high tech. China's response is the reason they went from a miniscule player in EVs to the world's largest manufacturer (same for other high tech industries like LIDAR, solar, etc). In his second term, Trump blocked NVIDIA from selling chips to China. China again responded with astounding progress on their domestic semiconductor industry which led to Trump backing down on the ban. However, China shocked everyone by banning their own companies from buying NVIDIA in order to support the domestic semiconductor industry. Obviously China is still years away from EUV but it now produces most of its own >14nm chips and is rapidly growing
7/26/2026, 12:51:43 AM
by: orbital-decay
Everything in this transcript reads so very different from what megalomaniacs in charge of Anthropic/OAI have to say
7/26/2026, 12:42:35 AM
by: toomuchtodo
Perhaps there is an opportunity for China to close the compute gap by renting compute from hyperscalers through a complex web of shell entities similarly to how the US procured titanium for the SR-71 during the Cold War.<p><a href="https://theaviationgeekclub.com/in-1960s-russia-sold-titanium-to-the-us-believing-they-needed-it-for-pizza-ovens-but-instead-they-used-it-to-build-the-sr-71-blackbird-mach-3-spy-plane/" rel="nofollow">https://theaviationgeekclub.com/in-1960s-russia-sold-titaniu...</a><p><a href="https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/titanium-russia-was-secret-ingredient-sr-71-blackbird-207691" rel="nofollow">https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/titanium-russia-was-s...</a>
7/26/2026, 12:26:23 AM