Show HN: Plain – The full-stack Python framework designed for humans and agents
by focom on 4/14/2026, 5:43:17 PM
https://github.com/dropseed/plain
Comments
by: donfuzius
Something like this has been on my mind for a while. When using LLMs for coding I believe it is a significant benefit, if the amount of lines to be reviewed by humans is as small as possible. An app, which is not much more than a configuration in a dense, custom made DSL with minimal coding to specify business logic would be the simplest artifact that a human can review quickly and an LLM can manipulate with ease (provided there's good docs / linting / errors / maybe even a finetuned model at some point).<p>Everything which just works "by convention" or by "opinionated defaults" (allowing a tightly coupled but very feature rich framework) helps to reduce the noise / lines that needs to be reviewed.<p>While this approach might not be optimal for every project, I'm certain the opinionated defaults can work for many endeavours. And the reduction of complexity might be one important aspect, which can make an "agentically engineered" project sustainable.
4/14/2026, 8:23:56 PM
by: petcat
It looks like it's a fork of Django that just kind changed a bunch of stuff arbitrarily?
4/14/2026, 7:33:30 PM
by: awongh
TLDR:<p>- fork of django<p>- it's opinionated<p>- typed<p>- comes with skills / rules / docs baked in<p>I'm not against this idea in principle, but I'm also not sure why that is better than what's already out there, except maybe you save some tokens by not vibe coding this yourself?<p>I do think in the future we'll see some novel libraries that are agent-optimized first. I'm not sure if this is it, though.<p>(edit: formatting)
4/14/2026, 8:44:40 PM
by: jacktheturtle
Nice. Love the idea behind this. I have been using Django for most of my vibe coded side projects just for the reasons stated in this thesis.<p>Django code is pretty easy to review quickly. LLMs are good at writing it.<p>Django is just old and bloated, so the fork is a good idea. Maybe I will use this for my next side project.
4/14/2026, 7:57:04 PM
by: deafpolygon
It’s vibe-coded, too. Pass.
4/14/2026, 8:21:13 PM
by: durovilla
How does this compare to FastAPI + SQLModel?
4/14/2026, 8:12:00 PM
by: jaredcwhite
So a sloppified Django spit out by Claude? Good luck with that.
4/14/2026, 8:02:45 PM