Hacker News Viewer

NYC to open municipal grocery store in 2027

by DarkContinent on 4/14/2026, 5:09:36 PM

https://www.grocerydive.com/news/new-york-city-owned-grocery-store-manhattan-mamdani/817381/

Comments

by: rdtsc

&gt; “Some will insist that city-owned businesses do not work, that government cannot keep up with corporations. My answer to them is simple: I look forward to the competition. May the most affordable grocery store win,” Mamdani said.<p>Well it&#x27;s interesting enough to try. Are they going to keep the stores open at a loss, that&#x27;s not really competing then, is it?<p>If they sell things that are much cheaper, restaurants could start sourcing their food from there, too. Why get your chicken from some supplier if you can buy it from a cheaper government run store at much less.<p>But then, if these stores are not run at a loss, it means somehow there is this large inefficiency that other stores haven&#x27;t tapped into. And if I had to guess, grocery stores don&#x27;t seem like a large margin business, but perhaps that&#x27;s just my ignorance as it&#x27;s not something I ever looked into in detail.

4/14/2026, 6:46:14 PM


by: flats

I was very skeptical of these plans at first—as a New Yorker, I don’t exactly have a lot of trust in our city’s government to run things well.<p>But I’ve come around. Let’s try something new! Let’s show people that local governments in the United States really are capable of making a difference in their daily lives. If it fails, well, we tried &amp; we’ll keep trying.

4/14/2026, 6:17:48 PM


by: halflife

This sounds extremely non economically viable.<p>The municipality which has monopoly on land taxes and costs will compete with stores that must pay taxes and rent? Won’t it just cause neighboring stores to close?<p>Won’t a better option be subsidizing taxes for grocery stores, and let the discounts competitively pass unto the customers?

4/14/2026, 5:32:28 PM


by: energy123

Dumb populist idea, grocery stores make 2% margins, best case scenario you&#x27;re saving people 2%, realistic scenario you introduce operational inefficiencies that the chains already optimized out and waste taxpayer resources.<p>If you don&#x27;t like grocery stores gamifying or selling junk, regulate those aspects. Or put the taxpayer money towards something useful like building public housing.

4/14/2026, 6:28:49 PM


by: oa335

This is Mamdani’s worst idea. Margins on most essential goods in grocery stores is incredibly low, sometimes it’s a loss leader. Does anyone know of any solid economic rationale for this move?

4/14/2026, 6:32:55 PM


by: hnthrowaway0315

Not a new idea and the intention seems to be good. I wonder how will the implementation go. Where does the stores source merchandises? What is the volume of the five stores in total? How do they plan to offer a better price -- is it a percentage lower than some other stores, or something else? What if they have to run them with a loss? Such and such.

4/14/2026, 5:28:44 PM


by: bherms

Many people losing their minds over stuff like this... I&#x27;m just glad some people are finally trying out new ideas, because the status quo is not working for a large portion of the American population.<p>I just hope they properly track and monitor the outcomes and foster honest&#x2F;open feedback. The gov&#x27;t loves to throw money at problems, but never really does much to analyze, pivot, or admit when something doesn&#x27;t work because that just gives the opposition ammo.

4/14/2026, 6:49:30 PM


by: Molitor5901

If you&#x27;re interested in grocery store economics, I strongly recommend:<p>The Secret Life of Groceries: The Dark Miracle of the American Supermarket by Benjamin Lorr, and<p>Grocery: The Buying and Selling of Food in America by Michael Ruhlman<p>Extremely insightful about how much it cost to run a grocery store, where profits go, who the food suppliers really are, etc. Very eyeopening.

4/14/2026, 6:59:49 PM


by: bastawhiz

I&#x27;m not opposed to this, but I&#x27;d rather have seen incentives and subsidies for local co-ops to succeed in this space. That&#x27;s probably harder than it sounds, though.

4/14/2026, 6:28:31 PM


by: robotnikman

Are they looking to hire any software engineers right now?

4/14/2026, 7:04:44 PM


by: MisterTea

I wonder what the margin is on groceries and if the stores can sustain themselves by operating at cost. I also want to know how they plan to handle pricing during shortages, e.g. eggs.

4/14/2026, 6:05:54 PM


by: thelastgallon

Don’t do these kinds of idiotic things. Do what Singapore does for housing.

4/14/2026, 6:30:05 PM


by: bparsons

The government already runs&#x2F;oversees a variety of public grocery stores. Including:<p>- Armed forces commissaries. The op ex is subsidized by the taxpayer, but the cost of goods reflects the market wholesale price, plus a 5% fee to pay for capital goods&#x2F;facilities upkeep.<p>- Grocery stores run by non-profits&#x2F;charities. Eligible donations are a tax deduction, which represents a form of subsidy by the taxpayer. These stores are really popular in some places in the US.<p>- Food banks. Operate on a mix of private donations and taxpayer grants&#x2F;tax receipts to some donors.<p>It all amounts to the same thing. The finance model is different in each case, but its all taxpayer supported no matter how you look at it.

4/14/2026, 6:27:58 PM